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	<title>Comments on: On Baby Showers and Rachel Moss</title>
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		<title>By: Amelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. I&#039;m kind of horrified.
The feminist group at my school is called SASS (Students  Against Sexism in Society). What an unflattering similarity...
I hadn&#039;t heard of Rachel Moss until just now.

And I love the idea of gender-neutral baby gifts, and the idea of being surprised about the sex of one&#039;s baby.  I do not plan on becoming a mother, but it&#039;s great nonetheless.

P.S. I love the new look of your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. I&#8217;m kind of horrified.<br />
The feminist group at my school is called SASS (Students  Against Sexism in Society). What an unflattering similarity&#8230;<br />
I hadn&#8217;t heard of Rachel Moss until just now.</p>
<p>And I love the idea of gender-neutral baby gifts, and the idea of being surprised about the sex of one&#8217;s baby.  I do not plan on becoming a mother, but it&#8217;s great nonetheless.</p>
<p>P.S. I love the new look of your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: goingtomontreal</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/on-baby-showers-and-rachel-moss/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>goingtomontreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why yes Sarah I do have stairs in my house. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why yes Sarah I do have stairs in my house. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: cyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sarah on people who marry too young. Every time a classmate from Uni gets married or gets engaged ages before being done with her studies, I feel like sending her a funeral crown of flowers to her house. And it&#039;s so horribly common in my &quot;upperclass&quot;, Catholic university. You just stumble through so much contradiction it&#039;s scary. You can&#039;t say they chose to get married or accept the diamond ring or lose their virginity on their wedding night. It&#039;s mostly peer pressure, and people telling you how to live your life.

It&#039;s ok if you want to be a feminist stay-at-home mum. It is possible. As long as you are the one choosing this lifestyle and you are revolutionary at what you do. Say, if you homeschool your kids and you tell them about civil rights and discrimination, and you teach them to be great human beings who love and respect all kinds of people.

If I ever get pregnant and have children (I may start thinking about it after finishing a Master&#039;s degree), they will wear clothes from all colours of the rainbow, and their things will be decorated with animals and nature, unless they told me they liked ballet and rugby (no matter the kids&#039; genders). And if my boy wants to wear pink, rock on!

And Rachel Moss sucks indeed. I hope she gets refused her PhD application EVERYWHERE because of this. She will wish the death threats were real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sarah on people who marry too young. Every time a classmate from Uni gets married or gets engaged ages before being done with her studies, I feel like sending her a funeral crown of flowers to her house. And it&#8217;s so horribly common in my &#8220;upperclass&#8221;, Catholic university. You just stumble through so much contradiction it&#8217;s scary. You can&#8217;t say they chose to get married or accept the diamond ring or lose their virginity on their wedding night. It&#8217;s mostly peer pressure, and people telling you how to live your life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok if you want to be a feminist stay-at-home mum. It is possible. As long as you are the one choosing this lifestyle and you are revolutionary at what you do. Say, if you homeschool your kids and you tell them about civil rights and discrimination, and you teach them to be great human beings who love and respect all kinds of people.</p>
<p>If I ever get pregnant and have children (I may start thinking about it after finishing a Master&#8217;s degree), they will wear clothes from all colours of the rainbow, and their things will be decorated with animals and nature, unless they told me they liked ballet and rugby (no matter the kids&#8217; genders). And if my boy wants to wear pink, rock on!</p>
<p>And Rachel Moss sucks indeed. I hope she gets refused her PhD application EVERYWHERE because of this. She will wish the death threats were real.</p>
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		<title>By: lquilter</title>
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		<dc:creator>lquilter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found my way here via the non-baby shower topic.  about which i have nothing more to say. 

however, i wanted to add this about the baby shower stuff.

my partner and i *did* want to know, but we decided not to tell anyone else to avoid insane gendering.  that worked for about two weeks.  then we told people but made them PROMISE to not gender the baby -- in gifts, words, deeds, etc.  and we specifically prohibited pastels generally, pink specifically, and girly patterns.  that worked out pretty well, except for my partner&#039;s mom who, when unsupervised, gave us, yes, pink dresses.

my partner has taken to telling people: &quot;It&#039;s a tomboy!&quot; or &quot;It&#039;s a baby butch!&quot;  while we know full well that she will be what she wants to be, and we have no intention of trying to make her into a tomboy or a baby butch, we think that&#039;s no more inappropriate than trying to make every little girl into a femme princess. 

... and another thing.  i was infuriated that the cool science-y things are &quot;coded&quot; male: stars &amp; planets &amp; rocketships are filed under &quot;boy&quot;!  so annoying. 

... anyway, one helpful thing:  As you discovered, by going to eco-friendly gifts, you can avoid a lot of the awful, awful gendering that babies&#039;r&#039;us etc. foists on people.  there are often &quot;natural&quot; colors and a generally more progressive sensibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found my way here via the non-baby shower topic.  about which i have nothing more to say. </p>
<p>however, i wanted to add this about the baby shower stuff.</p>
<p>my partner and i *did* want to know, but we decided not to tell anyone else to avoid insane gendering.  that worked for about two weeks.  then we told people but made them PROMISE to not gender the baby &#8212; in gifts, words, deeds, etc.  and we specifically prohibited pastels generally, pink specifically, and girly patterns.  that worked out pretty well, except for my partner&#8217;s mom who, when unsupervised, gave us, yes, pink dresses.</p>
<p>my partner has taken to telling people: &#8220;It&#8217;s a tomboy!&#8221; or &#8220;It&#8217;s a baby butch!&#8221;  while we know full well that she will be what she wants to be, and we have no intention of trying to make her into a tomboy or a baby butch, we think that&#8217;s no more inappropriate than trying to make every little girl into a femme princess. </p>
<p>&#8230; and another thing.  i was infuriated that the cool science-y things are &#8220;coded&#8221; male: stars &amp; planets &amp; rocketships are filed under &#8220;boy&#8221;!  so annoying. </p>
<p>&#8230; anyway, one helpful thing:  As you discovered, by going to eco-friendly gifts, you can avoid a lot of the awful, awful gendering that babies&#8217;r'us etc. foists on people.  there are often &#8220;natural&#8221; colors and a generally more progressive sensibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/on-baby-showers-and-rachel-moss/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really concerned for young people who are becoming stay-at-home parents.  Let&#039;s define these &quot;young people&quot; as late teens and early to mid twenties.  Some of these people have never had a serious job (meaning full-time, pays the bills without help from parents), a credit card of their own, never had to pay bills, and basically have no experience being an independent adult.  They get married right out of college or while still in college and decide that they are going to just stay at home.  I am not saying that parenting is not a hard job (if I have a family I hope that we are in the financial situation that would make one parent staying home feasible), but there are life experiences and skills that come through having a more structured job.

But here&#039;s where my anxiety comes in.  What if your partner leaves you?  Has an accident and can no longer work the same job to support you? Dies? Presents themself as a danger to you or your children? Decides to become a monk and forego all wordly things?  The possibilities are endless, and difficult to plan for.

You are left with no job experience to get a job to support yourself and your family (even if you have a college degree it is really really hard.  Ask any recent graduate).  No credit to get a car, or even a credit card for groceries.  If your partner died, hopefully there was life insurance that will pay for the funeral.  

My problem with stay at home parenting so young is that it makes you dependent on someone else.  Whether it&#039;s your partner to support the family or your parents if it falls apart, it makes it nearly impossible to be independent.  I don&#039;t think people really consider what could happen in that way, normally it&#039;s &quot;Oh, teh babies!&quot;  

Kacie, do you have stairs in your house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really concerned for young people who are becoming stay-at-home parents.  Let&#8217;s define these &#8220;young people&#8221; as late teens and early to mid twenties.  Some of these people have never had a serious job (meaning full-time, pays the bills without help from parents), a credit card of their own, never had to pay bills, and basically have no experience being an independent adult.  They get married right out of college or while still in college and decide that they are going to just stay at home.  I am not saying that parenting is not a hard job (if I have a family I hope that we are in the financial situation that would make one parent staying home feasible), but there are life experiences and skills that come through having a more structured job.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s where my anxiety comes in.  What if your partner leaves you?  Has an accident and can no longer work the same job to support you? Dies? Presents themself as a danger to you or your children? Decides to become a monk and forego all wordly things?  The possibilities are endless, and difficult to plan for.</p>
<p>You are left with no job experience to get a job to support yourself and your family (even if you have a college degree it is really really hard.  Ask any recent graduate).  No credit to get a car, or even a credit card for groceries.  If your partner died, hopefully there was life insurance that will pay for the funeral.  </p>
<p>My problem with stay at home parenting so young is that it makes you dependent on someone else.  Whether it&#8217;s your partner to support the family or your parents if it falls apart, it makes it nearly impossible to be independent.  I don&#8217;t think people really consider what could happen in that way, normally it&#8217;s &#8220;Oh, teh babies!&#8221;  </p>
<p>Kacie, do you have stairs in your house?</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to say this:  &quot;Preggers&quot; is quite possibly one of the most ugly words in accepted American English.  Seriously.  Ewwww.  It gives me creepy goosebumps, and I don&#039;t know why.  :P

I feel like I should say more, but, I can&#039;t get past that word.  It gives me the shivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to say this:  &#8220;Preggers&#8221; is quite possibly one of the most ugly words in accepted American English.  Seriously.  Ewwww.  It gives me creepy goosebumps, and I don&#8217;t know why.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I feel like I should say more, but, I can&#8217;t get past that word.  It gives me the shivers.</p>
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