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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Hellary who said something about &quot;if you can&#039;t stand the heat&quot;...? 

I&#039;ve seen quite a few blogs for Hillary ban non-Hillbots merely for expressing a divergent view. I&#039;ve been banned from TN Guerilla Women, Donna Darko, and The Red Queen (who hits a personal low in actually changing the text of my comments). This smacks of her insular, delusional nature IMHO as she and her surrogates cannot seem to handle free and open discourse (the Hildabeast used shills in her townhalls). This may not apply to you but as I have been banned by those sites that shut down dissent, this is where I am able to post for the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Hellary who said something about &#8220;if you can&#8217;t stand the heat&#8221;&#8230;? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen quite a few blogs for Hillary ban non-Hillbots merely for expressing a divergent view. I&#8217;ve been banned from TN Guerilla Women, Donna Darko, and The Red Queen (who hits a personal low in actually changing the text of my comments). This smacks of her insular, delusional nature IMHO as she and her surrogates cannot seem to handle free and open discourse (the Hildabeast used shills in her townhalls). This may not apply to you but as I have been banned by those sites that shut down dissent, this is where I am able to post for the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: whatsername</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>whatsername</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just explaining this concept just yesterday to an &quot;I&#039;ve never been privileged in my life, I earned everything I have!&quot; guy.  Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just explaining this concept just yesterday to an &#8220;I&#8217;ve never been privileged in my life, I earned everything I have!&#8221; guy.  Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: goingtomontreal</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>goingtomontreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saying I am doing them is not citing the specific instances in where I have done them. I am a very open-minded individual and having been working hard on trying to examine other experiences outside of my own. 

If you want to go find someone with enough &quot;intelligence&quot; to read your comments without ever even thinking about their intent, by all means, go elsewhere. No skin off my nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saying I am doing them is not citing the specific instances in where I have done them. I am a very open-minded individual and having been working hard on trying to examine other experiences outside of my own. </p>
<p>If you want to go find someone with enough &#8220;intelligence&#8221; to read your comments without ever even thinking about their intent, by all means, go elsewhere. No skin off my nose.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused.  You say you&#039;ve never done them on your blog, then you do them on your blog, and then say you&#039;ve never done them on your blog.

&quot;If you want to point out where, exactly, I have not had an open mind, relied on assumptions, indignant that my voice refuses to be heard, or dismissed ideas outside the realm of my experience?&quot;

I did.

&quot;And I don’t give a fuck about being rude or not. This isn’t “Miss Manners Feminist.” If you don’t want your intent misconstrued, then think about what you are saying. Or here’s a genius idea: start your own blog and bitch about there. Maybe someone who cares will listen.&quot;

No, if I don&#039;t want my ideas misconstrued, perhaps I should voice them to someone with enough intelligence to actually read the statement and understand it, instead of someone who reads a statement not for what it is, but for what she wants it to say (because that gives her justification to attack it).

Also, I&#039;m pretty certain it&#039;s a feminist no-no to use &quot;bitch&quot; in that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  You say you&#8217;ve never done them on your blog, then you do them on your blog, and then say you&#8217;ve never done them on your blog.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to point out where, exactly, I have not had an open mind, relied on assumptions, indignant that my voice refuses to be heard, or dismissed ideas outside the realm of my experience?&#8221;</p>
<p>I did.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I don’t give a fuck about being rude or not. This isn’t “Miss Manners Feminist.” If you don’t want your intent misconstrued, then think about what you are saying. Or here’s a genius idea: start your own blog and bitch about there. Maybe someone who cares will listen.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, if I don&#8217;t want my ideas misconstrued, perhaps I should voice them to someone with enough intelligence to actually read the statement and understand it, instead of someone who reads a statement not for what it is, but for what she wants it to say (because that gives her justification to attack it).</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m pretty certain it&#8217;s a feminist no-no to use &#8220;bitch&#8221; in that way.</p>
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		<title>By: goingtomontreal</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>goingtomontreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never claimed to have NEVER done any of those things in my life...I simply said I don&#039;t do them on my blog. If you want to point out where, exactly, I have not had an open mind, relied on assumptions, indignant that my voice refuses to be heard, or dismissed ideas outside the realm of my experience? I guess &quot;assuming your intent&quot; my count, but really, it&#039;s not hard to tell with your harsh language and dismissive attitude what your intent is. 

And I don&#039;t give a fuck about being rude or not. This isn&#039;t &quot;Miss Manners Feminist.&quot; If you don&#039;t want your intent misconstrued, then think about what you are saying. Or here&#039;s a genius idea: start your own blog and bitch about there. Maybe someone who cares will listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never claimed to have NEVER done any of those things in my life&#8230;I simply said I don&#8217;t do them on my blog. If you want to point out where, exactly, I have not had an open mind, relied on assumptions, indignant that my voice refuses to be heard, or dismissed ideas outside the realm of my experience? I guess &#8220;assuming your intent&#8221; my count, but really, it&#8217;s not hard to tell with your harsh language and dismissive attitude what your intent is. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t give a fuck about being rude or not. This isn&#8217;t &#8220;Miss Manners Feminist.&#8221; If you don&#8217;t want your intent misconstrued, then think about what you are saying. Or here&#8217;s a genius idea: start your own blog and bitch about there. Maybe someone who cares will listen.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did disagree in an intelligent respectful manner.  I didn&#039;t call you names, I didn&#039;t do many of the things you are currently doing.

Such as telling you what your intent was.  

You telling me what my intent is, is, &quot;relying on assumptions&quot;.

You&#039;re being indignant that I&#039;m not listening to you and doing what you say.

You&#039;re acting as though you are right, and all other opinions are wrong.

You&#039;re dismissing ideas outside of your realm of experience.

And by telling me that you absolutely do not do these things, and that I&#039;m wrong, you&#039;re seeing facts and opinions about other experiences, and refusing to acknowledge them.

So, you&#039;ve never done anything on that list, right?

Those are just coincidences that happened only today?

&quot;And no matter how much you kick and scream, trolling and playing the devil’s advocate is, at its heart, an attempt to silence someone.&quot;

Again, you aren&#039;t me.  Stop &quot;relying on assumptions&quot;.  You don&#039;t know what I&#039;m doing, what I&#039;m thinking, or what my intent is.  Don&#039;t tell me what my intent is.  It&#039;s incredibly rude.  When commenters tell YOU your intent, you label them trolls.

But somehow that makes it okay for you to do it?  

How exactly, then, does that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did disagree in an intelligent respectful manner.  I didn&#8217;t call you names, I didn&#8217;t do many of the things you are currently doing.</p>
<p>Such as telling you what your intent was.  </p>
<p>You telling me what my intent is, is, &#8220;relying on assumptions&#8221;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re being indignant that I&#8217;m not listening to you and doing what you say.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re acting as though you are right, and all other opinions are wrong.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re dismissing ideas outside of your realm of experience.</p>
<p>And by telling me that you absolutely do not do these things, and that I&#8217;m wrong, you&#8217;re seeing facts and opinions about other experiences, and refusing to acknowledge them.</p>
<p>So, you&#8217;ve never done anything on that list, right?</p>
<p>Those are just coincidences that happened only today?</p>
<p>&#8220;And no matter how much you kick and scream, trolling and playing the devil’s advocate is, at its heart, an attempt to silence someone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, you aren&#8217;t me.  Stop &#8220;relying on assumptions&#8221;.  You don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m doing, what I&#8217;m thinking, or what my intent is.  Don&#8217;t tell me what my intent is.  It&#8217;s incredibly rude.  When commenters tell YOU your intent, you label them trolls.</p>
<p>But somehow that makes it okay for you to do it?  </p>
<p>How exactly, then, does that work?</p>
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		<title>By: goingtomontreal</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>goingtomontreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t put words in MY mouth, Mild Ennui. How can you call my a hypocrite when I have never, on this blog, done any of the things you are claiming? And no matter how much you kick and scream, trolling and playing the devil&#039;s advocate is, at its heart, an attempt to silence someone. If you actually wanted to engage in a real discussion of my post, you wouldn&#039;t have just dismissed it; instead you would have disagreed in an intelligent, respectful manner like some of the above posters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t put words in MY mouth, Mild Ennui. How can you call my a hypocrite when I have never, on this blog, done any of the things you are claiming? And no matter how much you kick and scream, trolling and playing the devil&#8217;s advocate is, at its heart, an attempt to silence someone. If you actually wanted to engage in a real discussion of my post, you wouldn&#8217;t have just dismissed it; instead you would have disagreed in an intelligent, respectful manner like some of the above posters.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you obviously are confused about feminism and just using backlash language to try and silence me. It won’t work.&quot;

Don&#039;t put words or thoughts in my mouth/head that weren&#039;t there.  It&#039;s rude.

I&#039;m simply pointing out a nice bit of hypocrisy on your part.  I&#039;m not trying to &quot;silence you&quot;.  It&#039;s not all about you, I&#039;m afraid.

I&#039;m just drawing a parallel with what you accuse someone of, and what your movement, and by that extension, you yourself, do.

Nowhere did I try to &quot;silence&quot; you, or tell you to stop talking.  So please do stop imagining that I did.  It doesn&#039;t reflect well on you, and makes you look overly paranoid.

Feminists do everything you accused your troll of doing.  That&#039;s the extent of my statement.  That you often happen to be the pot calling the kettle black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you obviously are confused about feminism and just using backlash language to try and silence me. It won’t work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t put words or thoughts in my mouth/head that weren&#8217;t there.  It&#8217;s rude.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply pointing out a nice bit of hypocrisy on your part.  I&#8217;m not trying to &#8220;silence you&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not all about you, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just drawing a parallel with what you accuse someone of, and what your movement, and by that extension, you yourself, do.</p>
<p>Nowhere did I try to &#8220;silence&#8221; you, or tell you to stop talking.  So please do stop imagining that I did.  It doesn&#8217;t reflect well on you, and makes you look overly paranoid.</p>
<p>Feminists do everything you accused your troll of doing.  That&#8217;s the extent of my statement.  That you often happen to be the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: goingtomontreal</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>goingtomontreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mild Ennui/D--
you obviously are confused about feminism and just using backlash language to try and silence me. It won&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mild Ennui/D&#8211;<br />
you obviously are confused about feminism and just using backlash language to try and silence me. It won&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://dirtyrottenfeminist.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/trolling-and-male-privilege/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and refuses to open mind&quot; - so do feminists.

&quot;relies on assumptions&quot; - so do feminists.

&quot;indignant that we refuse to “hear his voice”&quot; - so do feminists.

&quot;And he operates with the attitude that he is right, and all other ideas are WRONG.&quot;  - definitely how feminists operate.

&quot;complete dismissal of ideas outside of the realm of experience&quot; - feminists again.

&quot;when he views so-called facts and opinions about these other experiences, he either does not know how to or does not want to remove them&quot;  - wow, feminists again.

All I&#039;m saying, is when you&#039;re calling the kettle black, you might want to look in the mirror to verify that you might just be the pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and refuses to open mind&#8221; &#8211; so do feminists.</p>
<p>&#8220;relies on assumptions&#8221; &#8211; so do feminists.</p>
<p>&#8220;indignant that we refuse to “hear his voice”&#8221; &#8211; so do feminists.</p>
<p>&#8220;And he operates with the attitude that he is right, and all other ideas are WRONG.&#8221;  &#8211; definitely how feminists operate.</p>
<p>&#8220;complete dismissal of ideas outside of the realm of experience&#8221; &#8211; feminists again.</p>
<p>&#8220;when he views so-called facts and opinions about these other experiences, he either does not know how to or does not want to remove them&#8221;  &#8211; wow, feminists again.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying, is when you&#8217;re calling the kettle black, you might want to look in the mirror to verify that you might just be the pot.</p>
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